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On today’s Equipping You in Grace show, Dave talks with Dave and Holly Pivec about the concerning influence of Bill Johnson and Bethel, how they interpret the Bible, govern the church, why and how Christians can engage in discernment, and speak out against this movement, along with her book with Doug Givett, Reckless Christianity: The Destructive New Teachings and Practices of Bill Johnson, Bethel Church, and the Global Movements of Apostles and Prophets (Wifi and Stock, 2024).
What you’ll hear in this episode
- Who Bill Johnson and Bethel are and how has their influence grown and why is that important to understand.
- The biggest reasons why Christians should be concerned about Bethel.
- The concerning nature of Bethel church’s government.
- How Christians should evaluate the shocking claims made by Bethel and Bill Johnson.
- What is so concerning about the Passion translation.
- The most concerning thing about how Bethel interprets the Bible.
- The problems with Bethel’s claims of “binding and loosing” and how Christians should think about them.
- Help for the average Christian on speaking out against the New Apostolic Reformation.
About Our Guest
Holly Pivec is a blogger, author, and speaker, as well as a pastor’s wife and homeschooling mom. She has a master’s degree in apologetics from Biola University, where she also served as university editor for nearly a decade. She has coauthored two books about the New Apostolic Reformation: A New Apostolic Reformation? and God’s Super-Apostles. She operates a popular blog which has followers from around the world, and has spoken and written for several audiences and outlets.
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Thanks for listening to this episode of Equipping You in Grace!
Dave Jenkins is happily married to his wife, Sarah, and lives in beautiful Southern Oregon. He is a writer, editor, and speaker who loves Christ, His people, the Church, and sound theology.
Dave serves as the Executive Director of Servants of Grace Ministries and the Executive Editor of Theology for Life Magazine. He is the Host and Producer of the Equipping You in Grace Podcast and a contributor to and producer of Contending for the Word.
He is the author of The War of Worldviews: Truth, Lies, and the Battle for the Christian Mind (Theology for Life, 2026), Contentment: The Journey of a Lifetime (Theology for Life, 2024), The Word Matters: Defending Biblical Authority Against the Spirit of the Age and The Word Explored: The Problem of Biblical Illiteracy and What To Do About It (House to House, 2021).
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When he is not engaged in ministry work, Dave enjoys spending time with his wife, going to movies, sharing a meal at a favorite restaurant, or playing a round of golf with friends. He is also a voracious reader, particularly of Reformed theology and the Puritans, and is often found working through a stack of new books from a wide range of Christian publishers.
Dave earned his M.A.R. and M.Div. from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary.
