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On today’s Equipping You in Grace show, Dave talks with Dave and Holly Pivec about the concerning influence of Bill Johnson and Bethel, how they interpret the Bible, govern the church, why and how Christians can engage in discernment, and speak out against this movement, along with her book with Doug Givett, Reckless Christianity: The Destructive New Teachings and Practices of Bill Johnson, Bethel Church, and the Global Movements of Apostles and Prophets (Wifi and Stock, 2024).
What you’ll hear in this episode
- Who Bill Johnson and Bethel are and how has their influence grown and why is that important to understand.
- The biggest reasons why Christians should be concerned about Bethel.
- The concerning nature of Bethel church’s government.
- How Christians should evaluate the shocking claims made by Bethel and Bill Johnson.
- What is so concerning about the Passion translation.
- The most concerning thing about how Bethel interprets the Bible.
- The problems with Bethel’s claims of “binding and loosing” and how Christians should think about them.
- Help for the average Christian on speaking out against the New Apostolic Reformation.
About Our Guest
Holly Pivec is a blogger, author, and speaker, as well as a pastor’s wife and homeschooling mom. She has a master’s degree in apologetics from Biola University, where she also served as university editor for nearly a decade. She has coauthored two books about the New Apostolic Reformation: A New Apostolic Reformation? and God’s Super-Apostles. She operates a popular blog which has followers from around the world, and has spoken and written for several audiences and outlets.
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Dave Jenkins is happily married to his wife, Sarah. He is a writer, editor, and speaker living in beautiful Southern Oregon. Dave is a lover of Christ, His people, the Church, and sound theology. He serves as the Executive Director of Servants of Grace Ministries, the Executive Editor of Theology for Life Magazine, the Host and Producer of Equipping You in Grace Podcast, and is a contributor to and producer of Contending for the Word. He is the author of The Word Explored: The Problem of Biblical Illiteracy and What To Do About It (House to House, 2021), The Word Matters: Defending Biblical Authority Against the Spirit of the Age (G3 Press, 2022), and Contentment: The Journey of a Lifetime (Theology for Life, 2024). You can find him on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, or read his newsletter. Dave loves to spend time with his wife, going to movies, eating at a nice restaurant, or going out for a round of golf with a good friend. He is also a voracious reader, in particular of Reformed theology, and the Puritans. You will often find him when he’s not busy with ministry reading a pile of the latest books from a wide variety of Christian publishers. Dave received his M.A.R. and M.Div through Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary.