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On today’s Equipping You in Grace show, Dave talks with Holly Pivec about the New Age and the NAR, the dangers of the music of Bethel, and the Passion Translation, along with her new book with Doug, Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church (B&H, 2022).
What you’ll hear in this episode
- Things to look for when looking for churches and ministries influenced by the New Apostolic movement.
- Why the music we sing is theological.
- Why we should avoid Bethel music.
- Why Bethel Music is a trojan horse into the NAR.
- The connection between the New Age and the NAR.
- The dangers of the Passion Translation and how it is at the heart of the N.A.R.
- Help for those coming out of the N.A.R. and starting to attend a biblical church.
- Some signs of spiritual abuse in the N.A.R.
- Five ways every Christian can join the resistance and speak out against the New Apostolic Reformation.
About Our Guest
Holly Pivec is a blogger, author, and speaker, as well as a pastor’s wife and homeschooling mom. She has a master’s degree in apologetics from Biola University, where she also served as university editor for nearly a decade. She has coauthored two books about the New Apostolic Reformation: A New Apostolic Reformation? and God’s Super-Apostles. She operates a popular blog which has followers from around the world, and has spoken and written for several audiences and outlets.
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Thanks for listening to this episode of Equipping You in Grace!
Dave Jenkins is happily married to his wife, Sarah, and lives in beautiful Southern Oregon. He is a writer, editor, and speaker who loves Christ, His people, the Church, and sound theology.
Dave serves as the Executive Director of Servants of Grace Ministries and the Executive Editor of Theology for Life Magazine. He is the Host and Producer of the Equipping You in Grace Podcast and a contributor to and producer of Contending for the Word.
He is the author of The War of Worldviews: Truth, Lies, and the Battle for the Christian Mind (Theology for Life, 2026), Contentment: The Journey of a Lifetime (Theology for Life, 2024), The Word Matters: Defending Biblical Authority Against the Spirit of the Age and The Word Explored: The Problem of Biblical Illiteracy and What To Do About It (House to House, 2021).
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When he is not engaged in ministry work, Dave enjoys spending time with his wife, going to movies, sharing a meal at a favorite restaurant, or playing a round of golf with friends. He is also a voracious reader, particularly of Reformed theology and the Puritans, and is often found working through a stack of new books from a wide range of Christian publishers.
Dave earned his M.A.R. and M.Div. from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary.
