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On today’s Equipping You in Grace show, Dave Jenkins and Mark Vroegop have a wide-ranging conversation about learning to lament, the place and practice of lament in the Christian life and ministry, along with his book, Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament (Crossway, 2019).
What you’ll hear in this episode
- The importance of lament for the Christian life.
- What lament looks like in practice.
- Times to practice lament and times not to practice lament.
- What it looks like to incorporate the practice of lament into the corporate gathering on the Lord’s Day.
- Advice for pastors wanting to preach on lament from the Bible.
- How lament helps grieving people.
- How suffering helps refine what we trust in and how we talk about our experience with suffering.
- How lament tunes the heart so it can sing about trust in God alone.
- How lament is a prism through which we see a path for growth in the grace of God.
- Some personal steps one might take in personal lament or in helping others learn about the practice of lament.
- How lament can help Christians to preach the gospel to themselves.
- How lament can help Christians who struggle with rejection understand more of the Lord Jesus.
- A definition of lament.
- How pastors can model lament to the people in their churches.
About the Guest
Mark Vroegop (MDiv) is Lead Pastor of College Park Church in Indianapolis. He is a conference speaker, Council Member of The Gospel Coalition, Trustee at Cedarville University, contributor to 15 Things Seminary Couldn’t Teach Me, and author of Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament. Mark and his wife, Sarah, are parents of four living children and a stillborn daughter. Their story has been featured on Moody Radio.
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Thanks for listening to this episode of Equipping You in Grace!
Dave Jenkins is happily married to his wife, Sarah. He is a writer, editor, and speaker living in beautiful Southern Oregon. Dave is a lover of Christ, His people, the Church, and sound theology. He serves as the Executive Director of Servants of Grace Ministries, the Executive Editor of Theology for Life Magazine, the Host and Producer of Equipping You in Grace Podcast, and is a contributor to and producer of Contending for the Word. He is the author of The Word Explored: The Problem of Biblical Illiteracy and What To Do About It (House to House, 2021), The Word Matters: Defending Biblical Authority Against the Spirit of the Age (G3 Press, 2022), and Contentment: The Journey of a Lifetime (Theology for Life, 2024). You can find him on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, or read his newsletter. Dave loves to spend time with his wife, going to movies, eating at a nice restaurant, or going out for a round of golf with a good friend. He is also a voracious reader, in particular of Reformed theology, and the Puritans. You will often find him when he’s not busy with ministry reading a pile of the latest books from a wide variety of Christian publishers. Dave received his M.A.R. and M.Div through Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary.